The "whiny" witch?
So, a lot of people are worked up about Bay.
I didn’t foresee an issue, but apparently I was wrong.
Here’s the thing, Murder Most Witchy was a “transition” book. What do I mean about that? I mean it was setting things up for what is to come next.
I don’t always like the television season analogy, but I think that’s the easiest one to go with. When you break it down, the first three books were the first season. It was your introduction to Bay and the other Winchesters but you were in learning mode more than growing mode.
The next block of books were as much about Landon adjusting to a magical world as Bay adjusting to having him in her life. She grew up thinking no one would want to put up with the magic and ghosts – let alone Aunt Tillie – but slowly learned maybe that wasn’t true. She was still insecure, though, because she believed one thing her entire life and wasn’t sure she could ever break from that belief.
I spent a lot of time building the witch relationships how I wanted them, and now it’s time for another shift. Bay and Landon have to take the next step – moving in together – before they can take more steps after that. To make that happen, I needed Bay’s worst-case scenario to come to fruition. I needed Landon to go undercover and things to go badly.
It wasn’t just about Bay being “whiny,” which she fully admitted herself. It was Bay coming to grips with the fact that even when things change, that doesn’t mean she’s going to lose everything. There was a lesson in there that she needed to learn.
Going forward, I want to set up four different households. The Overlook is one, the guesthouse is another, Marcus’ stable and funky house project is the third and the Dandridge is the fourth. Now the witches, who are extremely codependent, need to learn to live in new environments. Even though Bay isn’t moving, it will be a new environment because the old pieces are being replaced with the new.
All that being said, November’s mystery and December’s fantasy (and even some of the book following that) will involve Bay, Landon and Thistle (and Marcus by extension) living together. Landon and Thistle being on top of each other is too much fun to ignore. After that, though, there’s new avenues to stroll down and they’re bound to be exciting.
How will Bay, Clove and Thistle deal with not being under the same roof? Sure, Clove is already out but with Thistle and Bay left behind it wasn’t that different. When Thistle leaves, though, we really are in a brave new witch world. That witch world will be different for Landon, too. He will go from spending half his time there to all of his time there, and it will still be an adjustment.
For those upset with Bay’s reaction, I’m sorry. Bay needed for the absolute worst to happen to prove that it wasn’t the end of the world. Did she act in a mature fashion? No. I never even considered that. I wouldn’t have been happy in her position and I didn’t ever think that was the way to go when writing it.
Moving forward, though, the witches will be braving new things and new scenarios. Will they always be mature when they respond? Absolutely not. That’s not the way they (or I, for that matter) roll.
They learned from Aunt Tillie, after all.
4/10/2017 03:54:06 am
I personally didn't have an issue with the whining. Landon said he'd be a week or two, when that was up I'd have been whiny too! Even though it was indeterminate how long the assignment would be when it turns out to be more than twice the expected length you get antsy. It is not so much a question of maturity as it is disappointment and worry. I love Bay and her insecurities, I liked her ascertaining Landon wasn't going to break up with her then thinking he may be moving away and not taking her with him.
4/10/2017 07:07:22 am
I did not have any problem with me being whiny. I probably would have been exactly the same! Had to have been very difficult for her to not be able to speak to him, to see him, or do you know where he was for an extended period of time. I probably would've eaten my weight and ice cream and drink my life away in red wine! I think for all intents and purposes, she did really well. I can't wait for the next installment! Thanks Amanda Lee for giving us such wonderful escapes.
4/10/2017 07:09:00 am
I didn't mind it either and clearly understood the reasoning. Keep writing what you see.
4/10/2017 07:13:30 am
I actually finished this one last night and it left me excited. Probably my favorite witchy book.
4/10/2017 07:17:35 am
I enjoy your books. I have 4 younger sisters and we act like the cousins not always mature but ready to fight for those we love. Everyone has an Aunt Till. They may be witches but are still family. I'm glad that Bay and Landon have moved on to the next step and am looking forward for what happens next
4/10/2017 07:28:22 am
I didn't feel that Bay was too whiny. I think she was hurting and whiny was the result. I feel like if you know Bay well enough you'd get that. Maybe the complainers just don't know or understand the characters well enough yet, or they envision them differently. You, Amanda,give plenty of back story through the whole series about each character and what makes them tick, so if the reader sits back and looks at all that, plus what is implied to happen in the future books, they should be able to understand what makes Bay act the way she does.
4/10/2017 07:37:03 am
I did think Bay was over the top and incredibly immature. However, Bay is over the top and incredibly immature, so it made total since. I loved the book!
4/10/2017 07:38:59 am
You go girl! I think it fit perfectly and for those complaining, well, they clearly don't read the end where you explain your sense of humor and writing every single book and that's on them!
4/10/2017 07:46:48 am
There were times while reading the book, I wasn't fond of Bay's insecurities, but once I finished the book, it made sense to me. I think it was a great book. As usual, I can't wait for the next one.
4/10/2017 07:58:57 am
I love loved this book just as I have all of the others. I understand why Bay was upset, I was a Navy wife for 20 years and that was part of life. In the long run it made me stronger and more independent. Thank you for introducing us to this wonderful family. I enjoy spending many hours with them and getting to know each and every one of them.
4/10/2017 08:01:09 am
I had no problem with this book in fact I totally got it. With growth comes change, and pain and insecurities - people that think life is always fun and games haven't yet lived. They need to take lessons from this book
I don't know why people got bent out of shape because Bay was whiny. this was their first true test as a couple. Being whiny about your boyfriend being away for an extended amount of time is fairly normal for most women, if they are being truthful . I didn't see the big deal about it. She finally came out of it in a way that only a Winchester could-being snarky and with sweet revenge. I only wish that the revenge had been a little bigger and a little more touched upon. But, she is growing in their relationship and moving away from it just being the 3 girls for so long. I am looking forward to the next chapter in all of their lives.
4/10/2017 09:21:39 am
OMG I can not believe you have had to explain your reasoning behind why you wrote Bay the way you did.
4/10/2017 09:43:40 am
I didn't have a problem with this book. I love this series.
4/10/2017 10:34:05 am
I had no problem with Bays reaction. She has a fear of abandonment and everyone deals and reacts with that in their own way.
4/10/2017 10:41:31 am
Murder Most Witchy was as good as all of your Winchester Witches books. Keep writing them and I will definitely read.
4/10/2017 10:43:00 am
Loved the books, keep them coming, very interesting to see how you developing the characters in coming books. Please don't apologise for your writing, your genuine fans are with you all the way. 😘😘
4/10/2017 11:28:06 am
I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED "Murder Most Witchy"!!! Can't get enough of this series! Thanks for sharing your amazing talent with us!
4/10/2017 12:12:07 pm
As I said in my comments on your Facebook page when you were upset that people were angry. I love those witches, and it was very obvious to me that you were creating a base or lead in to a whole new chapter of their lives. I think respectful criticism is helpful but that was not what occurred and that is a shame. Keep them coming girl! As well as your other books and those characters......goodness knows my favorite reads are full of snark and laughter and your books make me laugh out loud ( although my husband looks at me funny) ☺
4/10/2017 02:38:53 pm
Human emotion is hard for a lot of people to tolerate. I think Bay's thoughts and actions were very human. I loved this book and look forward to seeing the evolution of this series. You have a true fan in me.
4/10/2017 03:26:37 pm
I love your books, every month I look forward to new releases. Keep writing the way you do with all of your series. Thank you for my relaxing make believe land.
4/10/2017 04:09:04 pm
I did not have a problem with this book. Saw where you were going and did not she it being out of line for Bay, in the situation. My only problem is, you do not write fast enough. That goes for ALL your books. LOVE them.
4/10/2017 04:38:25 pm
I loved this book as much as I loved all the others. I can't believe there were readers who were not happy. Bay is Bay. She is a favorite and I can't wait for the next book. If she felt the need to whine so what. We would all probably do the same thing.
4/10/2017 07:36:29 pm
Was Bay over the top whiny? Yes, but Bay IS whiny and I felt she had to get really bad, to the point that even she noticed it. This was a great book, as they all are.
4/10/2017 08:41:01 pm
I really enjoyed this book. Bay was aware of what she was feeling and how she was acting; she seems like she's finally understanding herself better. And this was the first time (for me anyway) that Landon truly felt like a member of the family. He was before this but he was always still the FBI agent. In this book, once he was finished with his assignment, he was all about the family (and that sounds a little Godfather-ish!).
4/10/2017 10:19:22 pm
Don't change a thing. Bay did not respond the same way that I would have, but I read books for the variety of viewpoints and responses (plus the escapism!) WHat fun would it be if all the heroine's responses were predictable. If I am reading book, what is this? Book 8? Book 10? of a series, then I trust that the author has a grand scheme in place. I'm just along for the ride!
4/10/2017 11:02:15 pm
I think it was great. Some people just have a hard time understanding that when your boyfriend is away for a while it's hard on you. I can also speak from experience as I have been a long haul truckers wife for 12 years now. I keep getting asked how I do it, by whining about it lol.
4/11/2017 09:37:01 am
I didn't have a problem with this book. I can't understand why some people do. She may be a witch, but she's still human. I know some people deal with the same thing that Bay and Landon do in this book, but it was also their first time experiencing it as a couple. The book was AMAZING! You created them; they're your babies. We're lucky that you chose to share them and I know I'll still keep anxiously checking for new releases.
4/11/2017 08:24:15 pm
I probably understood Bay's reaction better than I should admit. Other than her unofficial "father" he's the first non-family member to fully accept and love her for herself. Her real father's abandonment, the way she was treated in school and the resulting isolation all left her with huge self-esteem issues. So, yes she's going to have a hard time fully accepting and trusting in Landon's love. Great book, I loved it but would have given anything to see Aunt Tillie get some good payback against certain individuals! ;)
4/13/2017 10:55:40 am
Your books are like an addiction, one I love having.
4/21/2017 03:26:07 pm
Was Bay whiny? Yes, but only for like five minutes! The book was absolutely great and I could clearly see where the author was going. Baby's whining didn't last for long and it contributed to the bigger picture. Can't wait for gather next book!
4/30/2017 12:35:05 pm
I loved how it was written. I like how even though its a fantasy book it shows real life emotion. Adults are not always mature in their reactions why should a book be different?.... I love that Landons moving there and to the guest house, I didn't want Bay moving. You always do amazing and make me want a Aunt Tillie, 💟
4/30/2017 01:40:11 pm
I didn't have any problem with Bay whining. I was more pissed at Landon for not calling her after he knew she was hurt. And yes I do realize I am insane and talking about fictional characters but I have become very attached to the whole clan. It was wonderful as always. Keep up the great work you are an amazing author.
Dorothy R Hindle
5/15/2017 01:02:45 pm
I thought this was one of the worst books I have ever read! Sorry but I have a hard time believing you actually wrote it. It was so bad I deleted it from my library.
10/17/2017 06:21:21 am
This makes total sense now. I was wondering what happened to Bay for a bit; and I will admit I was one of those who was originally thinking, "This is a bit over the top." But it's Bay, it's who she is and a characteristic she is indeed trying to improve. I'm so looking forward to the arguments to come when Bay, Thistle, Marcus and Landon are all piled in together. I love this series!
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